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re: Dark intent targets and incoming hard modes
by Donvipra on 7-2-2012 15:01
The healing table is done as well, before hand I apologize for the absence of Thania on the list, despite being in healing gear and spec the simulator kept putting her on DPS even after a manual override to healer.
Alright the first table is made on a Ultraxion styled boss and as the DPS on a 450 second duration.
Player
Galadruin
Ithra
Eluniel
Emoonpl
Meheal
| HPS without DI
14186
25047
26233
29061
14114
| HPS With DI_Source: Tethane
14346
26042
27839
29835
14251
| Increase
160
995
1606
774
137
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Where the second table is created by a Patchwerk styled boss with minor movement involved.
Player
Galadruin
Ithra
Eluniel
Emoonpl
Meheal
| HPS without DI
8968
25575
26762
29393
8838
| HPS With DI_Source: Tethane
9032
26478
27719
29335
8892
| Increase
64
903
957
-58
54
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HievnaEnlightened
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re: Dark intent targets and incoming hard modes
by Hievna on 7-2-2012 15:04
There is something i find funny about your charts. How it is possible to lose dps/hps with DI?
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re: Dark intent targets and incoming hard modes
by Donvipra on 7-2-2012 15:07
If there is no benefit for the caster or the receiver, it can be loss of dots or an extra tick, also the charts have been made with our current gear and should show who gets extra benefit from it.
And it's an increase of raid dps / healing, so if it says for example we should "loose" 150 dps that's a raid wide loss if 150 dps because neither the caster or the receiver has gained anything from that haste and the proc to actually gain anything over not having it at all.
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re: Dark intent targets and incoming hard modes
by Aselieos on 7-2-2012 15:52
so i assume for ppl who are at a haste cap (or at a stage where they need like 200 more haste for haste to have any further effect) it is of no use, hence the overall loss to raid damage?? Would make sense as im pretty sure im at a point where haste doesnt benefit me as much as other stats unless i have a ridiculous amount of it :p
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PhenomaPhenoma9Enlightened
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re: Dark intent targets and incoming hard modes
by Phenoma9 on 7-2-2012 16:09
One mistake with the list, u can't DI another warlock, the moment I dark intent someone, jodies dark intent would cancel out (or if i dark intent first and then jodie dark intents me, instead of a 3% buff to dot dps per stack, i get 1%):P
Dark Intent is best aimed at which role needs the buffs the most. For example, if its a fight where we are dying due to deaths, specially tank deaths, any boosts to healers is a good thing. however, if we are dying to enrage timers, the dps will then need the most buffs.
nice lists thou:D
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TethaneGuild Mistress
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re: Dark intent targets and incoming hard modes
by Tethane on 7-2-2012 19:30
I think the simple response is both me and Luke are very aware of our DI targets and the best benefit those would give the rdps, if we are not DIing resto druids it goes to spriests, balance druids and fire mages!
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re: Dark intent targets and incoming hard modes
by Galadruin the Dwarf on 8-2-2012 3:08
Donvipra wrote: | Alright the first table is made on a Ultraxion styled boss and as the DPS on a 450 second duration.
Galadruin
HPS without DI 14186
HPS With DI_Source: 14346
Where the second table is created by a Patchwerk styled boss with minor movement involved.
Galadruin
HPS without DI 8968
HPS With DI_Source: 9032
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I don't want to blow my own trumpet or such like - but these numbers are complete toilet - not sure what the emulator is saying pally's are doing - but to hit these numbers I suspect they are AFK.
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ElunielGuardian
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re: Dark intent targets and incoming hard modes
by Eluniel on 8-2-2012 4:56
Aww… Jodie and other warlocks; I have never even thought that you are not the best ones to do the DI decision. I didn't start this discussion for that reason.
The thing is; DI affects resto druid's gear, so you can’t freely move it from druid without hps loss (aka if druid assumes that he/she gets DI and has only 1573 haste). In the other hand, if druid has 2005 haste on gear and he/she still gets DI on raids, he/she could be more effective by dropping haste from gear.
TLDR:
- 1573 & DI = good, haste breakpoint reached
- 2005 & DI = not good, over haste breakpoint, haste is our weakest stat outside breakpoints, crit is nice tho
- 2005 & _no_ DI = good, haste breakpoint reached,
- 1573 & _no_ DI = awful, haste breakpoint not reached, druid should even give up int to get 2005 haste, it is that important
I’m baffled: get haste breakpoint like everyone else does and get less benefit form DI or rely getting it and be absolute disaster without it. When swapping to druid I was so happy that things seemed clear. D:
But after all, it is just one buff.
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ZuruthanEnlightened
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re: Dark intent targets and incoming hard modes
by Zuruthan on 8-2-2012 8:42
i want a DI too !
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PhenomaPhenoma9Enlightened
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re: Dark intent targets and incoming hard modes
by Phenoma9 on 8-2-2012 12:46
Only chance for a hunter to get a DI is if they are in survival spec:p (think its survival spec, i forget)
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